Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

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Fiftybucks
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Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by Fiftybucks » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:21 am

Hi all. New to the forum.
Wife and I are leaving Snead Island on Sept 1st and headed south to near Key West, but taking the 5 Channel shortcut, then up Hawks to Miami and duck in Gov Cut to ICW...
I am absolutely new to our Cat 350 with roller furling and furling main. Windy.com shows weather good on the way down but on the 5th near Miami near 15 knts..
I just don't have the skills with this boat yet only been aboard 1 hr under sail. With wind 15knts do I need to be sure to reef both head and main or just run with headsail... waves show 4ft at 5 sec
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jbd3
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by jbd3 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:41 pm

Consider a rope clutch for the headsail furling line to greatly ease the process of reefing the jib and let the weather helm be your guide. Esperance is wanting a reef about 18 or so but obviously your point of sail matters. We keep Windstar in Cape Coral and would happily tag along if we were local.

wolfe10
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by wolfe10 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:04 pm

Several times we have done the same trip-- FL west coast (actually from Texas) to Miami or Ft Lauderdale to jump off to the Bahamas.

We stay in the ICW from Matecumbe north. Lots of anchorages-- far more than in Hawk channel.

Whether to reef in 15 knots depends on wind direction. If a reach-- keep it all out and cruise along at 7 knots. If right on the nose find a place to wait it out unless on a schedule.

If questions, shoot me a private message (contact) and we can visit.

Sadly, "Billy the boat tipper" is no longer in business (or at least was not last winter) or you could take the Okeechobee across.

If interest in doing the Okeechobee waterway instead, might check with Indian Town Marina to see if anyone is tipping boats to get under the Mayaka RR bridge. That will save you a LOT of miles and is also an interesting trip.

Brett
Brett Wolfe
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League City, TX

Fiftybucks
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by Fiftybucks » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:38 pm

thx .... i understand your reply... if the boat is heeled over 15 degrees then reef... regardless..
at least for me..

I did call Billy Owen the 'boat tipper' and yes retired, just a full message box... Indian Town Marina said no one has picked up the tipping service.
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Fiftybucks
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by Fiftybucks » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:20 am

to jbd3
I surely would love the company of Windstar and advice on systems, sails, ICE, (we are buying a Yeti Sunday morning at WestMarine). Now were to put it.
Active Captain should have shopping carts for groceries, and an ice cube for Ice. Maybe a wrench for West Marine stores!

Tools? I got a socket set. 1 gigantic ancient screw driver and needle nose. 1 crescent. trip to Harbor freight Bradenton at 9am tomorrow.
I need to be able to adjust/change the fan belt at very minimum...

After this thing with the State of Florida 180 day thing is all past we will come back down on visits or join a Bahama flotilla. We have to leave, get registered and pay sales tax in SC. Anyway, got to be there to Brunswick GA by Jan 17

Just checked Windy.com thru Oct5 and it is looking good, like mostly motor sailing.
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jbd3
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by jbd3 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:08 pm

First of all, OH NO to the demise of Billy the boat tipper. That's how Windstar got to the west coast of Florida 2 owners ago. So his technique worked great on a Mk I 350 but now I'm not sure what the workaround will be. Any shared info on the angulation required would be great. We purchased Windstar 2 years ago specifically to have a live-aboard option in FL and to be able to cruise the Bahamas but a lightning strike last year turned our cruising season into a repair season. Long story short, we bought a canal house in Cape Coral that truly makes it a lot more comfortable than the 6 months we actually lived aboard and we have our own "marina" now so the boat will add to the livability of the house and hopefully still get to the Bahamas one of these years. Having owned Esperance for 10 years on Lake Michigan, we were very happy with the C350 on some extended North Channel cruises and weekend adventures. The northern boat lacks AC and a Panda genset but has a lot more storage room. We bought a separate ice maker that is about the size of a toaster and works via generator or inverter as it requires 120 VAC. Worked well in Canada but remains to be seen how it fares in the heat of Florida/Bahamas. We have a Yeti large cooler that we keep under the main salon table but NB that melted ice water dissolves bottle label glue to produce a really stinky effluent that requires prompt disposal, most conveniently into the bilge to be pumped overboard. For tools get a fairly complete kit even with a hammer, Allen wrenches, etc. You can't really go overboard here, Spare parts and hoses, wire, duct tape, etc. We keep a lot of that stuff in the port main salon settee seat. I have a very economical harbor freight solar array on the davits which at the least reduces the need for an engine charging cycle up north but with a genset is less essential. AIS highly recommended to cross the freighter traffic jam on the gulf stream but less essential once in the Bahamas. Happy to offer any other perspective as I really inhaled the C350 KoolAid.

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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by wolfe10 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:55 pm

BTW, for those interested in the Okeechobee Waterway across Florida, the Corp of Engineers publishes, on a daily basis, both the charted depth (look at route 1-- that is the cross lake route) as well as the clearance on the RR bridge:

http://w3.saj.usace.army.mil/h2o/reports/r-oke.html

As of this posting, depth is 7.60' (just fine) and bridge clearance is 50.07 (not so fine)'. So bridge clearance on the one RR bridge is about 3' too little for a 350!
Brett Wolfe
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League City, TX

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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by jbd3 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:57 pm

Regarding the low bridge east of the lake:

Trying to recall 50 year-ago trig but if a 350 is listed to 23 degrees, the cosine of that angle is is 0.92. A 53 foot mast would then require a vertical clearance of 48.76 feet to get through. Any collective thoughts on how much weight suspended on a perpendicular boom coupled with deck weighting and cargo redistribution might be needed to achieve this? IOW anyone think that this could be managed without dependency on outside help?

wolfe10
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by wolfe10 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:04 pm

Don't know that I would want to stress the gooseneck with that kind of load.

I know Billy lines up 4-5 plastic 55 gallon drums on the rail, ties them to mast, handrail, etc then has a high-volume pump that fills them with water.

Rough math 5 times 55 gallons times 8.3 pounds/gal= 2,283 pounds.

A NEW COTTAGE INDUSTRY ANYONE?????
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Brett Wolfe
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League City, TX

jbd3
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by jbd3 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:20 pm

Thanks!

Fiftybucks
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by Fiftybucks » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:24 pm

We went aground Big Pass. Sarasota. Should not have been there. Meant to take longboat pass but. could not see on chart plotter. I had wrong one as master. No data at helm. Bent rudder while being pulled off.

New rudder fabricated at Sailboat Rudders in Williston FL. Bushings from Catalina Direct. Should be back in water Tuesday/Wed. Got original slip at Snead. We will attempt again in a month or two Steep learning curve. I have pics and will try to post
Cheers Hull #380 (Infinity) new CG DV name

Fiftybucks
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by Fiftybucks » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:27 am

Boat is back in the water and in slip at Snead, Palmetto.
whew... back home in Idaho... re-grouping, and looking at mistakes we made. Maybe we will try in mid Nov...
we have purchased a Yeti also... and a dehumidifier. we have been looking at the overall plan and may choose to go to bahamas earlier...
sailing up to south carolina area in january might be too cold.

I am wanting to replace the raw water strainer with a new unit as ours has bronze wingnut model not the clear plastic hand removable strainer.
It is sure inconvenient to check and such, as it is under the rear mattress... is there a better solution?
Cheers Hull #380 (Infinity) new CG DV name

wolfe10
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by wolfe10 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:54 am

An excellent teaching tool is to use one of the chart programs such as:

https://cruisersnet.net/category/west-f ... n-florida/

Go to "chart view". In the upper right is "toggle full screen view".

Carefully run through the next day's route. Become familiar with the marks, turns, bridges, etc. Figure out where you want to stop the next night. Make reservations if a marina.

This materially lessens the "drama" of learning to navigate.
Brett Wolfe
C350 #180
"Vindaloo"
League City, TX

Fiftybucks
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Re: Newbie Embarking from Tampa to Titusville

Post by Fiftybucks » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:09 pm

i visited recommended site... wonderful.. i have now saved as bookmark.
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