Dead Head (But not Grateful)

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Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by KenKrawford » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:09 pm

I have a Newport SeaEra commode that suddenly quit working. When I push the flush button I can hear a very faint click coming from the motor area but nothing else happens.
Before I start tearing things apart, has anyone run into this before?
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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by R.B. » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:43 am

Yes. When mine did that, I pulled the pump/motor apart. The freshwater pumping portion had rusted solid. I removed the pump part and the motor/macerator spun freely allowing the macerating/flushing portion to work. I have run the head this way for years. We add water as needed using the shower wand.
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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by KenKrawford » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:35 am

Thanks for the information Ralph. I've cursed this unit for many years and this may be my incentive to replace it rather than tear it apart and fix it.
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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by R.B. » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:21 am

Yes we have looked to replace this noisy beast as well, just haven't found the "right" one. Let us know what you find :)
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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by Interlude35 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:42 pm

We replaced our Raritan SeaEra with the Raritan Marine Elegance toilet connected directly to the fresh water system. The toilet looks great, is quieter and works very well. The Marine Elegance toilet also has a salt water and fresh water/salt water combinations. We opted for the fresh water only as there is no odor & the water usage has not been a problem. The instructions were very good as was Raritan’s assistance. The only surprise is the fresh water pump runs whenever the toilet is flushed. I was able to eliminate all hoses from being visible.
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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful) Raritan Marine Elegance

Post by tranquil » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:13 pm

Interlude

Thank you - pictures are very helpful. The Elegance lack of visible hoses and motor is impressive, along with a less noisy operation. Couple of questions if you do not mind:

1. where and how did you install the "flush panel"? What cutting, wiring, drilling, etc was necessary? The Newport "flusher" is at the base of the toilet; does not require anything separate.

2. did you stabilize the new unit and if so, how? The Newport is glued down and wobbles until completely disconnected. Others have installed brackets from the "head closet" ( which is thicker than the base platform the toilet is attached to, so would assume greater stability and longevity) to the hinge portion of the toilet. Will "Elegance" be/become as wobbly as Newport?

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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by Interlude35 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:22 pm

HI Teri- I put the control panel under the head sink where the push button was located for the previous head - it required a small cutout. The wiring connections were very easy - but- fishing the wires to the connection locations required some thought. The head does not wobble as it is supported by a bracket fastened into the deck and then attached to the toilet. Each bracket is made for specifically for the toilet you receive. I made an opening behind the toilet to route the waste and water hoses(being in fresh water you may have a different hose arrangement). Ken Krawford also installed a Marine Elegance toilet. Hope this is helpful. I am happy to answer any questions, John

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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by KenKrawford » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:47 am

I'm very happy with the Raritan Elegance as well. John's help was invaluable for the installation. I'd highly recommend using Raritan's Saniflex hose. It's ridiculously expensive but bends without kinking. I also didn't realize how much odor had permeated my old hoses until the new one was in. The mounting brackets are a strange design I'd never seen before and I had to call Raritan for replacements twice before all was well. The unit is solidly attached to the base once installed.
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Re: Dead Head (But not Grateful)

Post by tranquil » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:23 pm

Thanks to all for the feedback. Seems this is an "elegant" solution for the head. My newport does not have a separate control unit, so would need to cut a new hole as well as figure out how to connect to battery with new wiring (including fish it through the boat)

Additionally, we in Chicago cannot macerate and have to lock off the system to avoid usage. I have a service that comes weekly to suck out/pump out the waste from the port side mid ships fill. Uncertain how that service will affect the "elegance"; would assume it should not be any different from the Newport. But if hoses are different on the new unit, perhaps it would be affected adversely.

Not sure I am ready to take all that on and will need to "sit on it" for a while (ha ha)

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